Does someone who hates you deserve your pity? Your understanding? You empathy? A friend of mine once said that she feels bad for the men she argues with on sports fan websites, because it’s clear no one has ever loved them. They’ve never been touched by a hand that signified love; they’ve never felt a genuine emotional connection with any other human being. They’ve believed their lives that they’re unlovable, and when you read the vitriol, hate, and ugliness they hurl at women, you can see why no one has loved them.
Readers do not see all of the comments we get on the site because we moderate them. We moderate them because we can. If a poster isn’t adding anything to the conversation, and only responds with complete delusion and hate, then why should we post them? I mention this to get to my main point: even on our small corner of the web, we encounter droves of men who hate women. Let’s be honest, that’s what this often comes down to.
I’ve read some great breakdowns of why male gamers respond so violently to other human beings like Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and even many academics. What makes the most sense to me is this: when these gamers were growing up, they found a home in video games. Games became their identity, their social life, their connection to history and other humans, their fantasy, and their whole world. Gamers in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s had an unconventional hobby (for many it went far beyond a hobby). They took shit for being gamers, and inside games they found a home.
Now, some SJW comes along telling them that games are bad, they need to change, and that they’re bad for liking them. *rage* *rage* *rage.* I get that knee-jerk reaction. I’m sure it feels like a personal attack, and it probably doesn’t help that there is a larger narrative of women and minorities PC-ing people to death in the media and popular culture at large. If I could sit across from these GGers, I would say this: just like you found your home in video games, so did we. Folks here at NYMG, like Samantha Blackmon wrote about last week, have always loved video games. This isn’t an intellectual or philosophical exercise for us. We live, breathe, and will die loving games. The difference between us, though, is that games have always reflected your (GG-types) values, and they’ve always objectified us, made us feel unwelcome, and considered us outsiders.
We spent the same hours playing games as children, adolescents, and adults. We spent our nights alone or with small groups playing Everquest, or DnD, or whatever. We were there with you. We’re not new to games, though it might seem like it. Now we are standing up for ourselves, and we’re demanding that game developers 1)acknowledge the diversity of gamers and 2)begin making games that are reflective of this diversity and are inclusive to all. Does this dilute games? Fuck no. I believe from the bottom of my heart, as does every person on this blog, as does every SJW you dox and DDS and threaten, that making games more diverse and inclusive will make games better. If you truly believe that keeping the white male protagonist in every game is best, or that relying on tired narratives of saving some unnamed princess is best, or that only having female characters in games if they’re wearing a bikini is best, then so be it. But you’re wrong. Your movement is wrong. And your characterization of those of us who spend our lives trying to make games better is wrong.
So do I feel sorry for GG-ers? Do people who threaten women trying to make the industry better deserve our sympathy because they’re lashing out from a place of hurt and fear? No. You’ve had the spotlight in games for far too long. I’m sure it was fun, but it’s time to widen the circle and make room for those of us who have also been here since the beginning.
4 thoughts on “#GamerGate and Empathy”
I’m not sure where to begin with this reply other than to say I believe you’ve mischaracterized the majority of people that support Gamergate.
There is a great deal in your post that comes across as poorly informed regarding the actual people you’re talking about.
Honestly, I know you probably mean well, but an antagonistic point of view will only lead to a continuation of the hatred and vitriol surrounding this whole ordeal.
And I sincerely hate using this word toward an obviously intelligent and good person, but you’re being ignorant. You’re being just as ignorant as everyone that hears someone asking for consideration of their issues and then tars them as an “SJW”.
Gamergate will never end if you continue to fight against the boogeymen of your rhetoric and the apparitions of your frustration. Gamergaters will not stop until you, and people like you and I, can actually acknowledge that they are real people with real grievances. The more we continue to paint them as Leigh Alexander’s Dead Gamers, the longer all of this continues and the further we all slide toward a place we’ll never come back from.
And for the record. When people call others “SJWs”, they are referencing the sort of person and sort of mentality seen in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3mDLsyn6ns That’s what the “Warrior” part of SJW means.
I’m also not sure where to begin my response to your response. Unlike most of the commenters on GamerGate things, you seem reasonably intelligent; so let’s try to dialogue.
1. I have been playing games since the 1980s, and I’ve been writing and podcasting about games for over 4 years. I’ve been following the GamerGate movement very closely. So, let’s say you don’t just automatically assume that women are uninformed, let’s say you believe anyone who disagrees with you is uninformed. I’m quite informed about what you think your movement is about. The problem is that your opinion is completely divorced from the actual happenings of GamerGate. I don’t know who you are, but we constantly get comments, emails, tweets, and such from those in your movement who threaten us. People in your movement have been doing terrible things. No matter how much you wish that isn’t true, you’re wrong. And if you believe I’ve mischaracterized the majority of GamerGaters, then you’re delusional.
2. The things you present as facts are not facts. Sure, there is a contingent of men who have their head in the sand who truly believe GamerGate is about some vague thing dealing with ethics and journalism. But you can’t honestly tell me that that is the message of the movement now. GamerGaters threaten, abuse, and hate women. I’m sorry if you don’t take part in that aspect, but you still choose to identify with that group. The very fact that you think the doxxing, posting addresses, rape threats mailed to women’s places of work and homes, DDSing, and such is a “boogeyman” that we’re somehow making up out of our own frustration is shocking. Maybe you just are so out of touch with your movement that you actually don’t see all the damage your doing, or that your tone and rhetoric are so dismissive and a huge part of the problem. But that’s between you and your soul.
3. For the record, SJW has a long and interesting history that actually came from academia. Just because you don’t know about something, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Just because you can take a condescending tone doesn’t mean you have the first clue what you’re talking about (you don’t, btw). And just because you believe it means one thing, doesn’t negate the fact that it’s used in a very different context. Maybe you have the most trouble with that last one. Maybe you can’t handle that something you care about does awful things to people. You know what? I do feel sorry for you. I guess I was wrong in my article.
Friend,
I’m sorry we’ve gone down this road in our conversation and I apologize for my harshness and choice of words in my reply to you. I never meant to upset you the way that I have and I apologize for letting my frustrations come through. If I do so again in this reply, it is not my intent and I sincerely want only to express myself positively and not upset you or anyone else. I’m not here to be an antagonist toward anyone and I legitimately enjoy reading the posts and commentary on games and gaming from a Feminist perspective. I’ve avidly read the site and enjoy some of the podcasts as well, especially the Whatcha Playing, Whatcha Readin, Whatcha Drinkin, intros. Those are fun.
I’ve been gaming since the 80s as well and have grown up with games in my life. My fondest memories are of my mother playing the NES with me. I remember how frustrated I was that she would make me sound out all the words and wouldn’t let me skip to playing. She did that as a way to teach me to read. It was my mother and her feminism and strength that instilled in me the values I hold today. It is my sisters and their feminism that reinforce those same values that I try to share with others.
I am not part of Gamergate or its movement, nor do I agree with much of what has gone on, though I have followed everything from the start. What I have done is read everything people are saying and pay attention to what has happened and the way its happened without biasing myself to one side or another. Gamergate is a very complicated conflict with only one universal truth about it: Everyone involved is quick to assume the worst of people and quicker to dehumanize them into the ‘enemy’. An enemy they are then perfectly willing to do anything to defeat, no matter the cost. For example, you’ve instantly assumed I’m part of a movement and I hold their ideals even though my only interaction with you has been a comment where I’m critical of your post about empathy and mischaracterization. A post in which you complain about being mischaracterized all while mischaracterizing those you sought to address.
I will not defend Gamergate, or those who support it. I will not defend harassment or any of the other terrible things that everyone involved has played part to. But you’re wrong about them. They are human beings too, just like you. They deserve empathy just as much as you. They have gone out of their way to prove they are not a bunch of white men trying to keep women out of games and maintain the status quo. They are just as inclusive as you and conscious of things as you and as deserving of consideration as you. You may not feel that way about them, and they may not feel that way about you, but its true.
Even after reading and understanding as much as I have about what’s gone on, I still can’t understand why everyone is so willing to make everyone else out as being the worst thing that could ever possibly be. I can’t understand why otherwise reasonable people are so unwilling to have even a shred of understanding and empathy toward others. You and they are fighting two different fights. You’re fighting against the trend of misogyny in the culture and they’re fighting against the trend of corruption. Why either side has selected the other as the enemy to paint in the poorest light, I don’t think I want to know anymore.
As I said in my previous reply, we’re all sliding toward a place we’ll never come back from. I’m not your boogeyman.
“The problem is that your opinion is completely divorced from the actual happenings of GamerGate.”
I don’t believe that to be true, but I’ll accept if it is.
“People in your movement have been doing terrible things. No matter how much you wish that isn’t true, you’re wrong. And if you believe I’ve mischaracterized the majority of GamerGaters, then you’re delusional.”
As I said earlier, I cannot and would not be a part of a movement I disagree with. I’m sorry that I’ve come across as delusional for believing that they aren’t simply just misogynists.
“The things you present as facts are not facts.”
I haven’t, nor do I intend to present facts to you. I’ve only offered my understanding of things and my comment to what you’ve said.
“I’m sorry if you don’t take part in that aspect, but you still choose to identify with that group. The very fact that you think the doxxing, posting addresses, rape threats mailed to women’s places of work and homes, DDSing, and such is a “boogeyman” that we’re somehow making up out of our own frustration is shocking.”
There has been an immense amount of harassment and threats made to people both for and against whats been going on. That’s not the boogeyman to which I refer. Its the enemy you’ve crafted for yourself to face, the white, straight, male, misogynist whom only wants to keep you out of gaming. That’s the phantom. That’s the windmill you’re tilting at. Its the same as the Straw Feminist people trot out when they talk poorly about feminism. Its not real and its dehumanizing to the marginalized people that consider themselves part of GamerGate. You’re not making up the harassment that’s happening, but you’re making up who is doing it.
“Maybe you just are so out of touch with your movement that you actually don’t see all the damage your doing, or that your tone and rhetoric are so dismissive and a huge part of the problem. But that’s between you and your soul.”
It is clear to me that my comment was not constructive and not at all conducive to anything positive. I’m sorry again to have made it and for any damage or ill it has caused you or people you care about.
“Just because you can take a condescending tone doesn’t mean you have the first clue what you’re talking about (you don’t, btw).”
Perhaps I do not have a clue and I’ve caused more trouble than expressing my thoughts was worth. I’ll refrain from commenting again and I would like to once more apologize to you and the rest of the writers here.
“Maybe you can’t handle that something you care about does awful things to people. You know what? I do feel sorry for you. I guess I was wrong in my article.”
The only care I truly have is for friends and family affected by all of this. I worry about the impact all of this will have had once the dust settles. I can’t, with good conscience, watch others continue without saying anything.
I’m sorry that I’m out of place here on your site. I’ve enjoyed being a reader and hearing your opinions, even though I’ve disagreed with the form some of them have taken. I enjoy your message and your perspective on things. You are all truly remarkable people. Unfortunately, I believe its for the best that I discontinue my readership for now, but I wish you and everyone here the best in your work and your goals for your site.
Be well.
And here you are assuming again, this time about people making assumptions.
I won’t speak for anyone but myself, but on multiple occasions, I have invited people to talk to me on social media (and in life) about GamerGate. I want to hear those grievances. I want to have those debates. Those who come with daggers out, I block or ignore; I don’t have time for it. Those who don’t, I engage, face to face, on my own social media accounts, and often from the nymgamer accounts (hi! It’s usually me on Twitter!). And here, now, I’ll engage you, too, and while I might be gentler than Alex — the only time that will ever be said — I will agree with one thing: you’re wrong. Not only are you wrong when you make grand, sweeping assessments about “everyone” involved, but you’re even wrong about your own rhetoric, and I would ask you to explore your statements. You’ve said you won’t defend GamerGate, yet you do, here, and before. If you meant to be more specific in saying you won’t defend the more militant subsections involved with the bulk of harassment and abuse, then say that. Language is all we have here; please use it with precision.
Let’s talk about Alex’s so-called windmills, shall we? Let’s talk about the boogeymen you claim she’s creating. Are they the ones tweeting just today, in the wake of Anita Sarkeesian’s recognition by Time, that gaming is just for men and they’ll keep it that way? Look: https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/588480641731268608
Is it Mark Kern tweeting nonstop about how anyone who cares about social justice doesn’t matter in gaming, in comics, in other media?
Are these the people who are just as inclusive as we are? We, who are here every day examining and exploring patterns in games, trends, characterization, diversity? Offering considered, even-handed criticism as best we can?
Are we creating phantoms when we highlight redditors on the GamerGate hub harassing Zoe Quinn while posting about how she’s lying and creating harassment?
Tell me more about how inclusive that aspect of GamerGate is. Show me. I can show you the people I’ve talked with, who’ve actually talked, the people I welcome and whom I write about. I can also show you the ones who tell me I’m crazy for having an opinion. The ones who tell me I’m not a real gamer. That I’m useless.
Tell me more about windmills, because right now, I’m tilting at you.